30 September 2009

I am beginning to worry, workout was interrupted - again - by the dreadful headache on the 7th minute. I started subtly before that, and I was hoping I can work thgough it. But it got too intense.

The headache is occipital spreading to the forehead, and feels like it is coming from the neck. I I going to try some neck and shoulder mobility drills and see if it helps.

So I am still stuck at:

2 x 18 kg LC
6+ minutes, 39 reps

6 comments:

Brian said...

Eugene, this is from your post on August 1st: "Whoever says that snatching with multiple switches is meaningless has not tried it."

This comment stuck with me because I think you actually believe it. I believe the majority of amatuers that think multiple switches or 2 min sets are the way to train are the ones that dont like to struggle through the pain of an extended, one switch set.

Have you seen the video of the guy in Greece that does 180 reps with a 32kg, NO SWITCH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdGr5i5CpuM

That video would not have as much buzz if he switched mulitple times.

I appriecate your knowledge and enthusiasm for GS and I think that you have an informative blog.

Happy training!!!

Smet said...

Brian. Just like with any other sport, there is no one best way to train in GS, and every method has its applications.

I've seen the video of that guy, very impressive. By the way, he would not qualify for rankings as by WKC.

Read my post on continuous snatching and try place multi-switch in a proper context. I will address various approaches in the near future.

CI said...

After I read the post, I understand the context. In some respects, it isn't that different than the AKC protocol for Fitness except there are actual rest intervals (From 2 min to 30 seconds depending on the level, and the duration per arm is never greater than 3 min) and switches are done by time not reps (Well you are suppose to stick to a certain rpm). But, the duration starts out at 1 minute. Once someone can work through the upper levels (OALC, Snatch, Jerk), they typically can handle one switch sets with that weight pretty easily.

For folks where 6 min is a hard duration or near max (Where we usually start for one switch training), i may have them do the following for some conditioning type workouts:

4 min Snatch
4 Min Cleans (Easy)
4 Min Snatch or OAJ Depends on the individual. Rpms vary from 12-16. Not faster than 16rpm because of technique considerations.

rest 2 min (can be shorter) between exercises. Go through circuits 2-3 times - liberal rest between circuits.

Yes, that guy would not make rank with that set, but from what I understand he could hit MS rank (From what Valery told me). He has a weak side and that not only holds him back on snatches but jerks (weakness may be due to an injury..not sure).
CI

girevikdavid said...

Eugene, how long are you holding your fixations overhead when you get your headaches? I've been doing some overhead work and I'm aware that the trapezius attachment to the cervical spinal column is under quite a bit of stress in the overhead position. Perhaps some shrugs would help strengthen or at least let you know if that's a weak link. Just an idea.

Will you get an MRI at some point? Sounds like kind of a scary thing.

Hope it resolves soon.

David

Smet said...

Catherine, thanks for the comment. I agree, it is not that different. The main difference is that AKC protocol is iamed at general fitness, while this progression is specifically prescribed for improving GS numbers. I just finished the post on my modest results following this program.

David, you might be right about the trapezius. I had headache issues about a year ago when I was training with Sataev. He said it is not uncommon in GS, and he, his wife and numerous trainees had them. MRI - I am not sure I need it, I don't think the headache is coming from inside the head, and for musculo-skeletal causes you can't do much more than NSAIDs, rest and avoidance of triggers. I should experiment with the technique and see what makes it worse or better.

CI said...

Yes, that's true. it is aimed at fitness, but I do use it for folks who want to train for the sport, but who lack fitness. I also use it as a "recovery" type day for folks doing one switch because I certainly understand the difficulty (mentally) about this type of training.